General Ralph E. "Ed" Eberhart
CINC NORAD and U.S. Space Command
and Commander, Air Force Space Command
AFA National Symposium--Orlando
February 14, 2002
General Eberhart: I've got some good news in that I looked through my
files last night and I found a picture of Hal Hornburg. For those of you
who weren't here yesterday, he put up my picture. But even better news
for Hal is, I am not going to show it, Hal [Laughter].The men and
women of Air Force Space Command join me in congratulating our 12
Outstanding Airmen. We've done that several times over the last day, but
the fact of the matter is, we can't do it enough. What we recognize here
is our enlisted force and the thousands upon thousands of outstanding
airmen that you've heard the Chief and the Secretary talk about, serving
around the world. I am not sure "outstanding" covers it. Thank you for
all you do [Applause].
If there was any doubt about what a great Secretary we have, the
golfers in the audience can check their watch and note that we are ahead
of time. Sir, you are going to make your tee time [Laughter].
I am going to talk about space. I am here as the commander of Air
Force Space Command and that is what I will focus my remarks on. That is
not to say that what we are doing in U.S. Space Command or what we are
doing in NORAD in terms of the combat air patrols, AWACS, the 130s that
John Handy provides, computer network operations and information
operations, are not important. I'll be glad to address those in a
question and answer period, if you'd like to ask a question about that.
But I am going to focus my remarks this morning on space operations,
what we are doing now to support Tommy Franks and Enduring Freedom and
what I see as a glimpse ahead in each one of these mission areas.
You've heard the Chief and the Secretary talk to it. We all know it.
We all feel it, that we certainly are a transformational service. We
have been that way since 1947. I'd offer, we'd probably been that way
since 1907, when we bought the first military aircraft. But as you look
at this strategic guidance here and you look at what is in parenthesis
and what is highlighted, that is what your Air Force is all about. That
is what we do, day in and day out for this great nation. So, once again,
if I can invest in it, I certainly would. There are some areas where we
need some money. But the future has never been brighter and when you
think about the future, you can't help but think about space and when
you think about space, you can't help but think about the future. We are
going to step through some mission areas here. We'll start with the one
that we are all most familiar with - force enhancement. This is the one
we have worked the hardest on for the last decade, since Desert Storm.
Some would say it was our first space war. I am not going to argue with
that. But what I would offer is it is the first war where we truly
understood how we could leverage space capabilities, capabilities that
were built, designed for national reasons, and how we could use that at
the tactical and the operational level. And we've been working so hard
over the last decade. The analogy I use is a two-engine airplane. We had
both throttles back toward idle, in terms of space control and force
enhancement. We've moved that force enhancement throttle right on up to
military. Let's talk about each of these, please.
In terms of communications, it is the lifeblood of a military
organization. Why do we want communications? We want it for situational
awareness. We want it for command and control or control and command, as
Hal Hornburg talked to you yesterday. So it's very, very important. This
is not a science, it is an art - what is the right mixture of SATCOM?
What is the right mixture of fiber optics, compared to SATCOM? We'd
prefer fiber optics, much more bandwidth available. We'd like the prize.
But we all know, for the foreseeable future -I would offer to you
forever - we are going to have to go places where SATCOM is not
available or we are not going to be able to use it. We have to pursue
fiber optics. If it is not available, we'll have to pursue SATCOM.
There are some who say curb your appetite. Just learn to live with
what you have. I think that is shortsighted. I would offer to you that
the successes that we've achieved in the wars and the contingencies over
the last ten years is because we have the right communications. We are
on this flight path of increased capabilities. You can see how our
demand has changed, despite the fact that we have put people in harm's
way, we use much more bandwidth. I don't think that is bad and I would
offer that you need to help us with data compression, a backbone in the
sky, lasercom, all those kinds of things that are so important so we
have the communications we need.
In terms of supporting Tommy Franks, we have doubled the bandwidth
that is available to him. We have doubled the bandwidth that is
available to him in this conflict. Some of that is a good news story in
that we've gone out and we've established the global broadcast system.
We have brought that online for Tommy, which he didn't have prior to the
conflict. We've gone out and bought additional commercial capabilities,
but quite frankly, we've picked the pocket of other CINCs. They are not
happy about that, but they understand because they know we would do the
same thing for them, if they were sending people in harm's way.
This slide shows you the change in those different SATCOM areas since
11 September as we've worked to support Tommy. The fact of the matter
is, we have to make some tough decisions here in terms of EHF, in terms
of wide band, in terms of our mobile users. But I would offer to you
that the requirements are valid, all we have to do is work hard on how
we are going to meet those requirements, how we do that in a smart way,
and we certainly need industry helping us to do that.
Navigation and timing. It is sad in one way. It is good news in
another. That we take GPS for granted. When we look back at Desert
Storm, how many GPS bombs did we drop? Zero. Zero GPS bombs. So if we
wanted a precision weapon, what did we have to have? Good weather.
When was the last time we've had trouble synchronizing and making
sure everybody has the right time, that our systems are synched up? We
take that for granted. So, whether it is navigation or whether it is
timing, GPS is so very important. On the order of 50 percent of the
bombs dropped have been JDAM bombs. And, in terms of the accuracy that
we have provided, it is all fuzzed up for security reasons, but we are
providing accuracy half again as good as the operational requirements
document stipulates. Half again. So those young men and women are out
there and when those birds come in view of the theater, they are working
hard to update them and make sure they provide the best data available.
The bad news for us fighter pilots is we can't blame the bomb on the
GPS. If you've got a bad bomb, it is because of something else. Now that
doesn't mean your bomb is half again as good. But that means you are not
going to have a bad bomb because of GPS.
And we've got to stay the course on NAVWAR, GPS 3, etc., whatever we
call that, we have to have increased power. We have to be able to burn
through jamming. We have to be able to provide increased accuracy,
signals in the areas where we are operating only for us and deny it to
others and then the rest of the world has good navigation and timing
information. We want GPS to be the coin of the realm. We don't want
people to go elsewhere.
Next, missile warning battlesspace characterization, technical
intelligence, defense support program. Three decades old. Designed for
national reasons to support national requirements. Back to Desert Storm,
we decided that we could use this system at the operational and tactical
level. Smart young men and women like those sitting in the third row
figured that out and we've counted on it to this day, not just for
national strategic, but also for theater, as it is shown here. Very,
very important.
We have also realized that we can use it for battlespace
characterization. We can use it for environmental and natural events.
And we can use it for technical intelligence. And make no doubt that
technical intelligence is the key to making sure that we have the proper
missile warning in the future so that we can type that missile, so we
know where it came from and where it is going to go, what its
capabilities are.
But as good as this system is and we believe the follow-on system
will be space-based infrared, first of all, as the Secretary said, we've
got to get our arms around this program. Industry and government are
working on this now. Mr. Teets in the lead. The fact of the matter is,
we cannot have schedule and cost problems like we are seeing. But one
thing is for sure - the right answer is not to back off the
requirements. The requirements are valid. We have learned to count on
DSP doing this so we ought not accept less from SBIRS. In fact, we ought
to accept a lot more.
When you talk to people who were on the ground floor of DSP, they
will tell you, "General, we had no idea how we might one day be using
DSP." I would offer to you, that even though we sit down and look at the
operational requirements document, we have no idea how we one day might
be using SBIRS. Very, very important.
But as good as one system is, it is a mistake to put all your money
on one system. The physics are such that the answer is what? Fusion. The
fusion, as the Chief says, of air and space, any other sensors you have
out there.
ISR is very, very important to the intelligence preparation of the
battlefield. PBA - Predictive Battlespace Awareness. As we look forward
in terms of ISR, once again, we have to have systems that are
responsive, not just at the national strategic level, but at the
operational and tactical level.
We have to make our decisions based on what's right, based on
analysis. Where do we get the best bang for the buck? Is it air
breathing or in space? I would offer to you the right answer is some
place in between. We can make assumptions and go in and be space-centric
here and your answer is SBIRS and you need no multi-mission, you need no
Joint STARS, etc., or vice versa. We know that near one of those is the
right answer.
We are working hard on our analysis of alternatives to decide exactly
what the right way is to address this moving target indicator on the
ground and what the right mixture is - support throughout the Air Force
and all the interested agencies - NIMA, NRO, etc. We are going to get
this right. We are going to get this right, but we need space-based
radar. I don't know how many. I don't know if it is NEO or if it is LEO
but we have to make those decisions over time. that is the only way we
are going to get to surveillance as opposed to reconnaissance and that
is where we need to be.
Next, weather. Many people say, well, we'll just turn on the Weather
Channel. Well the Weather Channel doesn't work very well in Afghanistan
and other places. Very, very important the strides we've made in terms
of forecasting, observation, getting the information to the war fighter.
Very, very important.
And when we talk about weather we don't talk just about the terrestrial
weather but also space weather. And what effect it might have on
operations. I tell you, we need industry's help here. Because I am a
little frustrated because I get these forecasts of space weather, but I
have a hard time tracing those down to exactly, so what? So what
happened? We need to build some models. We need to do some analysis. We
need to increase our emphasis, our investment, both in intelligence,
intellect and dollars.
Now many people jump immediately to weapons in space or blowing
things up in space. But I would offer to you that the pillars of space
control start with surveillance. We've got to know what is up there.
Space order of battle, if you will. How does it work? What does it do?
So surveillance is very, very important. The other pillars are
prevention and protection, preventing others from using our assets, if
we think they are getting an advantage from it.
Protection. Make sure that they can't deny us the use of our assets. And
they are watching very closely. They know how we are using GPS. They
know the leverage that we get from SATCOM, weather, etc...so they are
beavering away out there trying to figure out how they deny us the use
of our space capabilities and we've got to be able to protect them.
Even when you get into negation, I would offer to you that there are
many other ways to negate an enemy the use of space capabilities other
than blowing things up in space. Blow them up on the ground. You can jam
them. There are lots of things you can do. You can use non-kinetic
means.
We've worked hard supporting Tommy Franks through prevention,
ensuring that we buy up as much imagery as we possibly can, of the AOR.
That imagery is not available. Checkbook, if you will. Assured access if
what I call it. This is pretty expensive, though. I don't know if we
want to do this over time. But that is one way - diplomatic is another.
And that is essentially what we did during Bosnia.
For those who say, you can't say space control, there was a while in
the 1990s when we couldn't say space control. We couldn't talk about it.
I think that is terribly naive. The fact of the matter is, that just
like in any other medium, we've got to be able to operate and we've got
to deny others the ability to operate at what we think it is costing us
on the battlefield, especially the lives of our young men and women.
Next, space support. As you know, we go back to 1994 and a decision
was made, which I applauded at the time and I still applaud, but I think
it is time for another decision, and that is that NASA would do the
reusables and the Department of Defense (read: the Air Force) would work
expendables in terms of launch vehicles. That was exactly the right site
picture. It brought about the double ELV as we know it today, which has
been very successful, short of a launch, which I'm sure will be
successful this summer. But when you stop and think about it, when NASA
looks for a reusable, they look for a reusable in terms of the
replacement of the Shuttle. That is a much different reusable than the
Secretary and the Chief and the CINCs are interested in. They launch on
schedule. They've got to have 100 percent success rate. And they don't
want to sortie, if you will.
We need to do all of the other things and we could accept a little
bit of risk because ours will be unmanned. NASA and the Air Force have
been working hard on the study on the way ahead for reusables. The
Secretary has talked to Dan Golden and now Sean O'Keefe about this. We
are going to get this right. And you know all the reasons we need
reusables. We need reusables so that we can sortie. So that we don't
have to wait a 179 days as we did for the last Titan IV to launch. We
need reusables so that we can replenish on orbit, so that we can go up
and do maintenance on orbit. And we need reusables so that we can drive
the costs down because you are never going to drive the cost down to
what we want it to be if you are using expendables. I would offer to you
there is another reason we want to use and develop reusables. And we'll
talk about that in the next mission area, which obviously we don't
usually talk about, but I think it is important.
Force application. When we talk about force application today, from
or through space, our option is the big guys. Let me be very, very clear
here-they are wonderful warriors. They are dedicated, motivated on the
northern tier out there, 24/7/365, regardless of the weather, regardless
of what is going on in the world, they are there, providing nuclear
deterrence. I offer to you that for the foreseeable future, they are
going to be. Regrettably. I'd like for them all to go away. But if there
is one nuclear weapon on the face of the earth, I know who I want to own
it. I don't think it is a question if. It is a question of how many we
have in the future. So we have to modernize this force and we have to
draw down the Peacekeeper force in a safe, intelligent way. And we have
to protect our people while we do this and I know once again, the Chief
and Secretary are committed to this.
But if you are going to get to what the Secretary talked about, if
you are going to get to the Global Strike Task Force of the year - you
pick it - 2025, 2030, 2040, you are going to kick down the door, in my
view, with weapons through space and possibly from space. That is how
you are going to kick down the door. Now, you are not going to then not
need the F-22, the B-2, the carrier, the Army, the Marine Corps. But the
threat array will be such, I believe, that you are going to kick it down
from or through space and we have to dedicate ourselves now - you know
how long it takes to develop these things - to be ready for that.
Whether it is a conventional ICBM, which causes people to shudder, or
whether it is a CAV or Pegasus off a B-52, whatever it might be, we've
got to develop those capabilities in the coming decades.
And then, if you are ever truly going to get missile defense right,
in my view, you are going to do it from space. Especially if it is more
of a global nature - missile defense, as opposed to what we heretofore
refer to as national missile defense. You are going to do it with
space-based lasers or things like that.
The way ahead? We talked about that. That was just summarized for
those of you like me who have a short memory. But when you look at the
bottom, once again, as we go back to the quote we showed at the
beginning, that handful of transformational goals that the Secretary of
Defense unveiled at the National Defense University a couple of weeks
ago, he said this [quote shown on screen]. I would have been glad to
write that for him. But his staff came up with that on their own, based
on what they believe is important and what he believes is important. And
there is no doubt, how important this will become and increasingly so in
the years ahead.
I thank you. I didn't again talk about NORAD. I didn't talk about
information operations, computer network operations and US Space
Command, I would be glad to do that during the question and answer
period. I do have to say how professional those men and women out there
who are flying these CAPs are, day-in and day-out, over 15,000 sorties
without an incident, without an accident, without an FAA complaint. How
professional they are and they are citizen-airmen and in this case,
augmented by the active force. What wonderful men and women we have out
there [Applause]. Thank you.
Q. What options are NORAD looking at to reduce the Noble Eagle
optempo on Air Force units? For example, could you include Navy or
Marine Corps fighters?
General Eberhart: First of all, as we look at the optempo and the
perstempo, it concerns us. And as we look at the way ahead, it is one of
the factors that we are considering. But I need to be very clear and say
that when we make a recommendation on a change in status, a change in
the number of airplanes involved, of people that are involved, the
combat air patrols we fly, the schedule, we make that not based on
optempo and perstempo. We base that on threat. We base that on what
other actions have we taken to mitigate, to reduce the risk? That is
what is important. Because if our nation needs us to do that forever, to
protect this nation, our people, its key infrastructure, then we ought
to spend those dollars.
I believe that in the long term, this is not the right way to work
this problem. The President, Governor Ridge, the Department of Defense
and Department of Transportation are implementing other ways that are
much more effective - security at our airports, bag matching with
passengers, air marshals, cockpits that are secure, that can't be
penetrated. An awareness in the American people - as the Chief would
say, they are all sensors. If they see something that looks odd,
peculiar, they are taking action.
Also, the briefings to the crews that you no longer say "yes sir, no
sir." You know, actively resist to the point of hitting somebody over
the head with an axe. By the way, the guy looked pretty good to have
been hit over the head with an axe. But that is the way to work this
problem. Better communication with FAA, with NORAD. Being able to see
the internal picture, not just the external radar picture. Being able to
respond a lot quicker than we could have on 11 September. The list goes
on and on, but once again, I have to emphasize, that we ought not back
away from this, based on perstempo and optempo. We ought to back away
from it because it is the right thing to do. And we are sharing those
responsibilities after 11 September. We had Marines, Navy, Guard,
Reserve, active duty all involved. And we had the NATO AWACS that Speedy
talked about helping us.
Q. Based on lessons learned from Operation Enduring Freedom, how can
we better integrate information warfare capabilities with our space
operations?
General Eberhart: We are working hard on this in terms of information
warfare, information operations. Part of the problem is that there is a
definition here that covers the full spectrum from camouflage all the
way to computer network attack, if you will. It is not just a horizontal
spectrum that we are involved with, but also a vertical spectrum because
you have information operations, information warfare at the tactical
level, at the operational level and at the strategic level.
I would offer to you that it is the inherent right and responsibility
of a commander at any and all levels to use, to initiate information
operations, information warfare. But what we need to do better is as we
integrate this across air, land and sea, as we do our planning at the
operational and strategic level - there is a void there right now. There
is a void that we are trying to fill in U.S. Space Command because we
have some resident experts. At the Joint Resident Operations Center, the
JOC and the Computer Network Operations Task Force. So we are using
those individuals, augmented with some academia and other experts in the
field, who are down at MacDill working at what we call the space and
information operation element. Once again, it is not their job to
execute. It is their job to plan and present the plan to the supported
CINC. And when they execute, they execute through components. Or if it
is a global execution, we would execute through U.S. Space Command.
Q. What are your thoughts on efforts in Europe to field a European
GPS type system? Are you concerned about the implications of who could
access such a system?
General Eberhart: I am very parochial. I alluded to that earlier. My
preference would be that GPS remains the coin of the realm. And that
people invest in GPS, use our system. It is good for this nation and in
turn it allows us to continue to develop and evolve the GPS system
through NAVWAR, as we discussed. I understand where people are concerned
that, what if you turned selected availability back on? What if you deny
us use of your GPS? I would offer to you that you've now seen two
contingencies where we could have done that and we decided not to. I
would say that the only time we will do that is if we are convinced that
the enemy is using our GPS to defeat us on the battlefield. That is the
only time we will take that step and the President makes that decision,
so I can't really speak for the president, but I think that is what the
decision will be.
And also we are going to go to this capability, this technology that
will allow us that, if you are not on the battlefield, if you are not in
the AOR, that you are still going to get a full-up GPS system. It is
just people on the battlefield who don't have the military channels that
wouldn't get that capability. Still don't trust you Eberhart, don't
trust the United States, also there are some technical issues here, we
want that in our industrial base, etc. Ok, I'll cry uncle. But what I
would offer, what I would suggest, what I would ask is that it be
compatible with our GPS system so that we don't have to re-outfit
Speedy's aircraft to fly in Europe, our airplanes that are transmitting
Europe of Johns.
Q. What is your vision for protecting/defending space-deployed assets?
General Eberhart: Obviously, we are concerned about the space element
and the ground element. And we focus on both. Right now we see more of a
threat and we are more concerned about protecting our ground elements
and we do that in a classical force protection way with our great
security forces men and women, and in some cases through contracts, etc.
Over time, as I've alluded to, we have to be more concerned about
protecting our space assets that are truly in space and there are lots
of different pieces to this puzzle.
First of all, we have to understand what the enemy has that could
affect that. So good intelligence preparation of the battlefield, space
order of battle. We ought not to then have to decide how we are going to
counter. Do we again make this satellite redundant? Hardened? Do we have
a constellation that is so robust that we can operate if one, two, three
satellites are taken out? But I think the key, as always, is to go on
the offense and make sure that they cannot mess with our satellite.
Initially where they are going to mess with our satellite it is going to
be from the ground. I think one day out there, they will be able to do
it from space. But I am concerned right now about their capabilities on
the ground. And that is where we are focusing our efforts.
Q. Can you give us your estimate of the Northern Command and how it
would impact you at NORAD and U.S. Space Command?
General Eberhart: First of all, it is premature to talk about homeland
security command, northern command, America's command or whatever the
name may be, until the Secretary makes his recommendation to the
President and the President decides what course of action to take.
A few things are clear - you've heard the Secretary of Defense say
this, approximately two weeks ago, in that, whatever we do, NORAD is
going to be involved, it is going to play a key role - aerospace
warning, aerospace control since 1958. So whether the individual is
going to be dual-hatted as CINC whatever in NORAD or whether NORAD is
going to become part of a Northern Command, will remain to be seen,
based on the President's decision and the discussions between the
Canadian government and ours. But again I believe that NORAD will become
married to or part of this new command, when this President elects to
stand it up.
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