General Hal M. Hornburg
Commander, Air Combat Command
AFA National Symposium--Orlando
February 14, 2002
General Hornburg: It is a great pleasure for me to stand here and
represent the men and women of Air Combat Command. I know a lot of you
are surprised to see me here and I am very surprised to be here. I
thought when I came back this year I would be representing AETC. I told
the Chief and the Secretary as I took command that when we left Langley
to go to San Antonio, Cynthia and I were driving separate cars and we
had little hand-held radios and we approached Emporia, Virginia on State
Highway Road 58. I got on my little radio and said, "Cynthia this is the
last time we are going to drive this stretch of bad road." Subject to
all decisions in the Air Force, everything is subject to review, and it
is good to be back at Langley.It is good to be back at Air Combat
Command and I think that you will find that, although the Chief laid out
his four priorities, we also share those priorities because he left an
envelope in my desk and said, "open this after your change of command."
And he said: Transformation, Readiness, Recapitalization and Retention.
I am just going to place the emphasis on a different syllable as I go
through this for you.
Because with me, I think that we need to start with retention. If we
don't exercise retention properly, we stress the recruiting, as the
Chief said. We lose those eight- or fifteen-year people and we make out
like the young airman who comes to us from Lackland is an adequate
replacement. Well, he is more than an adequate replacement with respect
to what he can become. But he is inadequate with respect to what he is
because he hasn't gotten there one day at a time and learned the skills
to replace the person who just left. We have to scrape, fight, and make
it very hard for those folks to leave us. I think that when I go around
the Air Force and look and see what is wrong with our retention, I have
to look and see where we've come in the last 10 years or so.
We closed 93 major military installations. We've come down 40 percent
in our force structure, base structure, our personnel. And yet our
optempo and perstempo are up 300 to 400 percent. What is not happening?
Well, the job is happening. The mission is getting hacked and we are
hacking it very well with our great young airman out there doing the
jobs that they are doing. But what we are not doing is at the four-star
level down to the one-star level down to the lieutenant colonel, down to
the chief master sergeant level down to the staff sergeant. We are not
coaching, leading and mentoring our airmen as we were coached, mentored
and led. That has to stop.
I go into some offices and I find people ready to pounce on that next
email. I am trying to encourage our people to get away from that email
and go have a conversation with a human being. [Applause]
In my life, one of the great leaders I worked for was General Billy
McCoy. He used to define this as "spitting and whittling." Get out with
the airmen, find out what is on their mind, find out if they have got an
itch. If it is in your power to scratch it, scratch it. If you can't,
find out another way to fix it. But when you turn on that computer in
the morning, it shouldn't tell you what you have to do that day. The
first thing it should tell you is that Staff Sergeant Smith has a
re-enlistment decision to make in six months. We then have six months to
work that problem. But if Sergeant Smith walks in and says, "Sir, this
is a sign or die. Do I leave or stay?" You've lost the fight.
So I look forward to working with General Jumper, with the Secretary,
with my friends here in the first and second row, to make sure that we
don't stress our recruiters. That we give them less than 36,000 to bring
in because we are doing a better job of retaining. And let me show you
what we get in return.
I was at Minot last week and I came across some engineers and brought
back some photos. Let me share a few of them with you.
This is day one, 0730. Next picture. Three and a half hours later.
Not bad. Next picture. Day two at 1700. Next, please. These are the
folks who built the mess tent. The problem is, the Afghanis didn't build
the slab in time. So, how do you get the slab under the mess tent? Let
me tell you, these are big tents. It took someone with more than Aggie
engineering to figure this thing out. But they picked this thing up and
didn't break it and they took it to the slab. They found out when they
were trying to build this thing that there wasn't a bulldozer so they
made one.
They took a forklift, went under a conex and began scraping and
leveling the dirt. It was no surprise to me. Then I met one airman at
Minot. His name was Sergeant Lom. And when the 10th Mountain Division
went in, the 10th Mountain Division discovered they had no structural
engineering expertise. Sergeant Lom was a political prisoner of the Army
for about a week, but he helped. Are we expeditionary? You bet your
bottom dollar we are expeditionary. And it is our airmen who make us so.
Now, turning to transformation. As some people call it, the dreaded "T"
word. Some people are afraid of transformation because we don't know
really what it means. I looked it up in the dictionary and it means
"change at the molecular level." It means, coming out at the other end
different than you went in. Some people say, well, it must be like Bruce
Wayne going into the Bat Cave and becoming the caped crusader. That is
not it-really it's not. That is not transformation. The Incredible Hulk
is transformation. [Laughter]
When I started looking to see what I wanted to look like, what I
wanted our part of the Air Force to look like, it dawned on me that I
kind of like what we look like today. But I went and talked to my friend
Ben Lambeth at Rand and he explained to me that there is nothing to fear
- we've been transforming since 1946. Probably the first transformation
was when we went nuclear. I can assure you that the transformation
between Vietnam and Desert Storm was true transformation.
I went back and I did some research and I found that to drop a bridge
in World War II, and this is from the Air Force historical archives, it
took 9,070 weapons to drop a bridge. In Korea, we got better. It was
down to 1,100. In Vietnam it took on average only 176 weapons to drop a
bridge. But what happened between this and Desert Storm?
Now we drop two bridges per airplane, if we are using F-117s. But
what if the weather is bad? Did we transform any? Did we learn anything
between Desert Storm and Kosovo or Afghanistan? You bet we did and we
continue to. I am not sure we have to, at the end of this, look
different than we look today. I think we need to go into a process of
what I would refer to as "vectored-evolution." But at the end of all
this, transformation will occur.
Do we have a road map? Yes we do. It is called the Global Strike Task
Force and the task forces that the Chief and others in the Air Staff are
getting us started on. We'll pick it up in ACC and in the other commands
and I think that at the end of the day, we are going to have something
that the country will be especially proud of and that we inside the
military will be proud of because we are part of the solution and we are
making it work.
Putting transformation aside just a little bit, but continuing on in
this same theme. I need to tell you that in Air Combat Command, in USAFE,
in PACAF and the Guard and Reserve, we have realized that we have a
co-dependency. Our co-dependency is called mobility in space. Let me
show you a picture and see what comes to mind when I show you this
picture of John Hand and Ed Eberhart.
Now some of you would look at this and say there are two CINCs. I
would look at it and say there are two friends. They would look at it
and say two great-looking guys [Laughter]. But these are the two
gentlemen who run the commands who enable us to do our job. And never
before have we depended so much on mobility and never so much on space.
Let me turn to my friend John Handy and single out his mobility
heroes for just a minute. When we think of mobility, this is what comes
to mind. But go back to where we were in Afghanistan and what enabled us
to get there. When I went to Mountain Home a couple of weeks ago, I
talked to B-1 crews and F-15E crews. One of the F-15E crews flew the
longest combat fighter mission in history - 15 and a half hours.
Slide. If we took an F-15E and sent it to the Middle East, unrefueled,
this is about the combat radius of that F-15E. But once John gets them
there and then once his people set up the tankers, this is the range of
that F-15. This flight of F-15s took off from Achman Al Jaber and it
went into Afghanistan and 15 and a half hours later it landed. The
highlights of the mission: the confirmed destruction of significant Al
Qaeda leadership. But that was on their third pass of the night. They
had done their thing. They had gone out. They had refueled and come back
in. They had done more. They were in the Indian Ocean and were asked to
come back yet again. After doing what they were trained to do and after
doing it superbly, they were on their way home and were told maybe they
should divert for crew rest. They knew the airplanes were needed the
next day, so they pressed on back. The flight leader was a major. The
wingman was a first lieutenant. Do we need to retain our people? You bet
we do.
Take the B-2. From Whiteman, the B-2's range is very impressive. But
we all know that when John and his people enable it, it is virtually
worldwide. So we know that to get there, we depend on AMC and TRANSCOM
to employ. We depend on them. We need to understand their business
better. They need to understand our business better and John and I have
been friends for a long time. I went to visit him shortly after my
arrival at ACC and learned some things that I think will help us get out
of town faster and make us more efficient.
Now, turning to space. Space is incredibly important. General Shaud told
you, I am an Aggie, so I am very basic on the way I think about things.
This is air. This is a gas. These are the things that fly in the gas.
This is space. It is a vacuum. These are the things that work in this
vacuum. We talk about air and space very glibly, like we just kind of go
back and forth. We need to worry about the integration of air and space.
Here's why.
The things on the bottom of this chart depend on the things on the top
of that chart for their success. Not only do we depend on those things,
but we depend on those airmen who become space people, who have the
space core competency to allow us who live in this terrestrial world and
this gas we fly in to do our job. Ed Eberhart, we depend on you and your
people. We need to work closer together. We need to understand your
talents and capabilities and your people need to understand more the
effects of what we do. Working together to form a partnership of air and
space integration more successful than any time in our past.
Now, if we don't do that, here is what we lose. I don't know if you
can read this in the back, but these are things that we basically take
for granted today: weather, navigation, all the way down to near
precision strike. Take space away and we take our capabilities away. We
need to find room and trade space to harden space to make it totally 100
percent dependable. I think you count on the CAF, the people who have
airplanes and provide forces that do the things that we read about in
the paper to find ways to protect it, because we can't have the analogy
of going to Walmart with a full basket of goods and have someone tell
us, "the system is down." Our job is so important, the system must
always be up.
To do this, we have to command and control it and the Chief has alluded
to command and control. The same experience that I have has led me to
look at this and say, "hmmm…C4ISR." That is a very amorphous term. It
needs focus. I think the leadership of the Air Force in the next several
years must bring focus to this or we will continue to drift. But we have
such a chance to succeed. A better chance than ever before. If we look
at this and take it down, there are a couple of Cs there that may be
more important than some of the other Cs. So the way I would arrange
this is like this: command and control - with the enablers of computers,
communications, ISR to enable that. But there is even one more C that I
think is more important than the other and it will surprise you. You'll
think it is command, but it is control. We have to be able to control
things to do the CINCs' will.
We have to bring the effects of fires to a point of confluence, where
the CINCs' and the JFACs' wills are accomplished with respect to what we
bring-steel and fire on targets. That is control. The science of control
enables the art of command. If you can't control it, you can't command
it. And the rest of it enables the whole process to work.
And we didn't have to fight hard for air supremacy. But in the Global
Strike Task Force construct, and if you go back to what the president
described the other night as the axis of evil… If we go to any of those
places we need to learn how to deal with this before we get totally
stealthy with the JSF and the F-22. We need different solutions. As 9th
Air Force and CENTAF commander, I talked to the Air Force XO and then
commander of the U.S. Air Forces in Europe, John Jumper, and found that
he had had the same problem when he was the CENTAF commander. I talked
to Chuck Wald and Buzz Mosely and find that they have the same problems.
And a lot of you in industry are trying to help us. But we don't just
need jammers and we don't just need Block 50s. We don't just need one
thing at the exclusion of all else. We need an array of capabilities to
deal with this threat.
I am looking for ground solutions and space solutions. I am looking
for kinetic and non-kinetic solutions. I am looking, for example, from
space to be able to get down into an SA-10 and convince it to launch all
missiles right now or to deny it from launching their missiles right
now. If you have an answer to this, if you want to work on this problem
with us, have pencil and paper ready, call me at the number on this
screen. Operators are standing by [Applause].
Ok, enough.
It is a pleasure to represent ACC. It is a pleasure to be the
spokesman for my friends who command the CAF. We pledged to work
together with industry. We pledged to be a good partner of the Chief and
the Secretary to conform to the guidelines that they've laid out, to
work as leaders in the Air Force to retain our airmen, to fight for
their survivability and to do the will of the United States of America.
I am very proud to be an airman in the Air Force today.
I thank you for your attention.
Q. Considering the accelerated evolution expansion role of UAVs, what
implications might this have for ACC training and doctrine?
General Hornburg: We have to find out - I think the Chief has pretty
much answered that question. With respect to concept of operations, we
need to know, once we get something, what to do with it or it is going
to be like the dog that caught the bus. What next? But we know what to
do with UAVs and I think the sky is the limit.
As John Jumper and Mike Ryan have so eloquently stated, it is great
to have a little computer chip that is willing to die for its country.
But once we take these UAVs and find out all of the things that we can
do, there is no airman that needs to be concerned that a machine is
about to take his job. But if you think about it, if you look at that
array of SAMs, what a great place for a UAV to go in and do its thing.
They are great in the high-threat areas and we are glad we have them. We
are going to build more. And we know what to do with them. And pilots
need not fear the future because of UAVs or UCAVs.
Q. To what extent does the Global Strike Task Force concept employ
assets from the Army and Navy?
General Hornburg: We are all going to have to pitch in on the command
and control. We are all going to have a part to play. There are people
who clamor for things with service parochialisms that I think we need to
avoid. We accept all comers to this. This is not an Air Force thing. We
are in charge of it right now and we are in the lead of it. But if there
is someone from another service or even another planet, for that matter,
who has a way to help us on this, remember the number on that screen.
Give me a buzz. I'll forward your name to the Chief.
Command and control will have a part. There will be a maritime part.
Eventually, once we have the access, there will be a boots-on-the-ground
profile to have a part as we seek depth. But right now we are in the
conceptual development stage and I think we welcome all comers.
Q. How will squadrons flying Noble Eagle reconstitute themselves for
Southern/Northern Watch or Enduring Freedom deployments?
General Hornburg: There is a political dimension to that and that is one
that the Chief and the Secretary and the others in Washington will have
to work. Until we get relief from the tasking, we continue to comply
with the tasking. I've talked to a lot of squadron commanders who have
air-to-air squadrons and they are beginning to whimper a little bit. Not
whine. Whimper. Because their tongue's hanging out and they see their
skills eroding. And we need to work this problem.
Now, one thing. If we had put our money where our mouth is (and we
didn't have the money), but just think where we'd be right now if we
could put all of those young men and women who are flying in Noble Eagle
in a computer system called Distributed Mission Training. Those skills
would not have eroded. By the way, is there a question on DMT? If not,
I'd like to give an answer on one.
DMT is crucial. There are those in this audience who wonder if we are
serious about Distributed Mission Training or Distributed Mission
Operations. I'd like to offer up an emphatic "yes." We are going to try
to look for the money. We don't have a choice. The way things are going
right now, we must go into better, more high fidelity simulation - not
to replace flying training, but to make flying training more valuable at
the higher levels. Do the basics in the simulator and make your precious
flying hours more valuable to you. That is one thing we are going to do.
That is not going to solve the short-term problem, but that will help us
long-term.
Q. What are the plans to fix manning, specifically security forces,
after September 11th?
General Hornburg: Just before I left Training Command, we got word that
the Air Staff wanted us to increase security forces throughput at basic
military training. That doesn't come without cost. You can't give more
people more training and increase the duration of the training without
having to take something from somewhere else because we only have a
finite bucket of training potential. But we have found ways and General
Cook and his folks at AETC are working to beef up. Don, you have a rough
947 cops this year, which is a significant increase from years gone by.
So the great folks at AETC are figuring out ways to make this happen and
they are doing it for us.
Q. How is ACC working to make CSAR assets available to the AEFs and the
war-fighting CINCs?
General Hornburg: What a question. Let me answer it in a way that the
questioner did not frame. We talked about this, this morning. The Air
Force is vitally serious about how to make CSAR the most vibrant,
well-funded force that we can possibly put on earth to go out and pick
up our people. Paul Hester and I will be working, starting on the 25th
of February, on a concept to find out where CSAR should properly reside.
There is no pre-condition. No one is assuming that ACC is the wrong spot
or that AFSOC is the right spot. But Paul and I have known each other
for 20 years and I think we can figure this out and report back to the
Chief. With the help of a lot of the people in the first two rows.
The folks in the CSAR career field need not fear. Your interests are
at heart and as General Jumper, the Chief, said today, I don't care
where it lives. But we are going to quit funding it in the year of
execution. We are going to put it in a spot where we can POM for it. We
are going to develop it. We are going to put it in areas that meld with
our other forces that have more of a special operations nature.
Security. ASOGs and ASOCes possibly. Close air support. Young Sergeant
Linehart and his group. And I think that we'll have a capability by the
time John Jumper leaves as Chief of Staff that we don't have today and
we'll be very proud of the effort that we are about to roll into.
Q. How are you fostering greater speed in the conops to requirements
input to make sure you're intersecting properly in the acquisition
cycle?
General Hornburg: I think our requirements people work very, very well
with the requirements folks in Washington. General Jumper is very much
involved, as well as the Secretary and the key leadership of the Air
Force, to realize what are the most important things we are doing with
respect to how they conform to conops. Whether they are doable, whether
they are affordable and whether we want to take them on. Because the
days of taking things that don't conform to our concept of operations
and then spending valuable money on them to try them just to see if they
work and satisfy someone's curiosity have to be over.
I think once we get an idea of what we need to do - what the effects
need to be, what the concept of operations should be to get to that
effect, and then not worry but ask for everyone to bring us throughout
the spectrum things that will get to those effects - we will get to use
industry better. We will get away for milspec if at all possible and
we'll field things that will be in the hands of our airmen, provide us
capabilities yet unseen.
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