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The Honorable Richard G. Lugar
U.S. Senate (R-Ind.)
AFA National Convention and Symposium
September 14, 1998
"Keynote"
President Doyle Larson and members of this great
convention, it is a great honor to have an opportunity to pay
tribute to the Air Force Association to tell you my personal
appreciation for your witness throughout the years, not only
on behalf of our Air Force, but all who wish to defend this
country, who have the very highest ideals of this country in
mind and want to make certain that Americans have full
opportunity to develop their personalities, their lives in
peace. While we have a very strong defense establishment that
is obvious to all of us in the world, I appreciate especially
your thoughtfulness in inviting the air chiefs of Hungary and
Poland and the Czech Republic because this is a high water
mark for our Congress, our President and for our country this
year — expanding NATO after a substantial debate of five
years. The vote was 80 to 19, not unanimous, a vote in which
the issues were highly contested and on which honest men and
women may differ, but one in which we have made, in my
judgment, a very, very strong advance to incorporate great
countries into the democratic framework and into our defense
posture.
During that NATO debate, as you might imagine, the cries
came forward from people who had not visited Article V of the
Washington Treaty, the original NATO Treaty, for awhile. They
asked, "Do you believe that a young American man or woman
ought to be sent to the boundary of Poland and Russia to
defend Poland in the event that an invasion or attacks
occur?" Under the idea of mutual defense, the United
States would have to be responsive in various ways, including,
ultimately, sending military force. That was a startling
question for many Americans who had not thought about NATO for
awhile. But it was a question that was answered in the
affirmative, and, I think, that is affirmatively seen in
Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic.
I visited Hungary in the latter part of August and visited
with the new prime and the former president of that country.
They take very seriously NATO membership. I want to return to
that in due course because Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic
are not only in Europe and part of NATO, but of course they
are very close to Russia and there are many problems that are
visited on that country presently. In fact, my visit to
Hungary was followed by visits to Ukraine and Kazakhstan.
There we took a look at facilities that were part of the
cooperative threat reduction program, sometimes known as the
Nunn-Lugar program, principally because my cohort, Senator Sam
Nunn of Georgia, served for a long time, as you know, as
chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. We
collaborated in a bipartisan way at the time of the fall of
the Soviet Union to try to take through the Congress and the
Administration what we could do to physically destroy missiles
and nuclear warheads -- and how we might then get our hands
around the problem of securing nuclear material. Then this was
extended to biological and chemical material and the
converting of plants in the former Soviet Union to do peaceful
things.
In any event, in Ukraine we revisited that very large
factory in which President [Leonid] Kuchma, now president of
the Ukraine, used to serve as the chief executive of 50,000
people who were producing SS-19s. We saw the actual physical
destruction of an SS-19 shell, long ago the warhead separated.
Of all the SS-19s in Ukraine, this was the 123rd
out of 130 that have been terminated in terms of their
operational function. A similar situation in Kazakhstan. This
has been one of the miracles of this decade that three states,
Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus, literally gave up their
nuclear authority, and became non-nuclear powers, with very,
very strong assistance through the Cooperative Threat
Reduction Act, assistance from the United States --
taxpayers’ money, expertise.
In Kazakhstan, in fact, in the Nunn-Lugar factory where
they’re attempting to go on to peaceful pursuits, they were
making shells or containers that plutonium would be
transported in from the border of Iran and Kazakhstan near the
Caspian Sea back into safer situations in the hinterland. In
the past, as you know, the United States Air Force would
actually lift from Kazakhstan about 60 tons of nuclear
material in various stages that were reported to us by
President [Nursultan] Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan. It is an
important fact in history that he called us. He could have
called others. This is highly merchantable material, but he
called us, and the United States Air Force took it to Oak
Ridge, Tennessee, where it is safe.
The miracles of the post Cold War era continue so long as
we alert, we have programs, we have facilities, we have
extensions of air power that is able to do difficult things on
very short notice. The good news is NATO expansion, and the
good news is this conversion of a nuclear authority in three
countries and increasingly nuclear authority in Russia. Over
4,800 nuclear warheads have now been destroyed in the
Cooperative Threat Reduction program. My prayer is the window
of opportunity in the world remains open long enough for us to
work with Russians who really want to progressively destroy
many more.
They do wish to destroy those weapons because they are
expensive. They are dangerous. The possibilities of accidents
and the possibilities of pilfering for profits and all the
terrors that might come from that are as evident to Russian
military people as they are to us.
I am asked sometimes why we in the United States have
worked with the Russian military on a computer program to try
to put online a list where all of the warheads or fissile
materials or whatever else they have of highly destructive
material is located. It used to be kept by time zones with pen
and ink on various tablets, but no more. The reason we are
working with them is because they want to know where it is,
and we want to know where it is. We want accountability for
the last ounce, if that is a possibility.
This decade that we are ending has been characterized by
extraordinary events, but it has also been characterized by a
trend which was healthy, that which led to thoughts of
democracy, by that I mean the institutions that make up a
great democracy: freedom of the press, religion, academic
inquiry and citizens to participate in politics — all these
things and, likewise, freedom of markets, markets determined
through supply and demand and a proper allocation of
resources. Markets that were open with a new infusion of
capital and new ideas and new prosperity. Markets that were
transparent. We began to have some idea of how the world works
in other countries.
We are at the threshold of a very difficult moment in all
this because 1998 has not been a happy year for the
progression of democracy or of free markets. In the case of
democracy, very clearly there are tests going on in Russia
presently. We do not know the outcome of those, although they
are very important to us. What kind of a government will
proceed in that country? Perhaps some of the tests of
democracy there have been precipitated by the failure of
market economics in some countries that did not grasp some of
its elements, commencing with Thailand and proceeding through
Malaysia and Indonesia and South Korea with very great stress
on Hong Kong and perhaps China.
Then, as people lost confidence in emerging markets, there
is real pressure on Venezuela and Brazil, and real pressure on
Nigeria because of oil. But what we now have come to realize
is that we have a deflation of commodities. It started with
agriculture, and we saw this in our debates in the Senate on
wheat. With corn and soy beans, there are very, very low
prices historically for this decade or for this generation and
equally low prices in oil. In real terms, oil is now worth
somewhat less than it was worth before the oil embargo of the
seventies. That meant that for an economy such as Russia,
dependent upon oil and mineral resources, the mineral
resources — being in the tank economically — add very
little income. Ditto for Venezuela and Nigeria, wherever the
oil and mineral economy took hits, but also for most countries
in the world that are still highly agriculturally based.
Everything they have is worth less in the markets of the
world. Their currencies were depreciating rapidly because of
banking excesses and sometimes scandals in which democracy
produced leaders who were sometimes especially lenient in
having the banking system make loans to various private
enterprises that did not go well.
It would have been helpful if Japan, as a great economic
power, had been able to bail out its neighborhood, but the
Japanese remain in very great difficulty, with a trillion
dollars of bad debt on the books of their banks. We admonish
them daily to do something about this, but the problem is, as
the New York Times illustrated, the 20 largest banks
have bad debts that are worth in every case more than the net
worth of the banks. To proceed rapidly would be to proceed
straight to bankruptcy, which the Japanese are not about to
do. As a result, we have one of these strange situations in
history in which the interest rates in Japan are one half of
one percent, and nobody wants to borrow because the economy is
in the tank.
This is not a happy time for friends of democracy. Not a
happy time when Malaysia closes its borders with regard to the
flow of capital and other nations wonder whether that is
perhaps what they should have done before, that the free flow
of capital, the free flow of exports, all of those elements
that led the world to very great prosperity just a couple of
years ago seem to have turned sour. If you were in Indonesia
today, you would be looking at food that costs six times as
much because the currency that you have in your hand is worth
only one-sixth in relation to the dollar as opposed to a year
ago. This is a devastating problem, and the aftermath of all
this we cannot quite calculate. The dilemma is illustrated by
looking at the incomes of people in the countries of the world
right at this point. For the 20 percent of us that live in
wealthy countries, and we do live in such a country, we have
86 percent of the world’s consumer power presently. The 20
percent at the bottom of the pile have 1.3 percent. The
yawning gaps between wealth and poverty in the world,
exacerbated by these currency changes, by the closing now of
borders, by the depressed agricultural, oil and mineral prices
leads to some very ominous developments in a hurry if we as
leaders are not very thoughtful.
Let me just simply say that all of these problems did not
come about overnight, and it is not very clear that any one in
the world has a game plan for what to do about it. The
Congress debates whether the International Monetary Fund is a
good instrument. We’ve been going back and forth all year
with regard to the IMF being the only ball game in town when
it comes to somebody that might turn it around. And yet, there
is a feeling that the IMF prescribed the wrong policies in
many cases to Asian clients and to others — clearly, as with
regard to Russian policy.
Russia is a very special case, and I return to that because
one of the reasons why we have felt fairly good about the
‘90s, in addition to this worldwide trade, the exports that
opened up for us, is that the world came to us through that
up-cycle potential. I come from an agricultural land, and I
would say, as many of you know the background on this,
one-third of all we produce in agricultural America has been
exported abroad in recent years. If those markets had not
developed in Asia and in Europe and in South America, we would
have a very different kind of country here. But we have
expanded widely what we have done, led on by agriculture,
which has been enormously successful in exporting at least $25
billion more per year than we import.
We have exported computer chips and electronic mechanisms
and the huge technology of this country, and we have done
well. We will continue to do well so long as somebody out
there has money to buy, so long as those markets do not dry up
in the same dramatic way that the wheat, the bean and the corn
markets have dried up in the last six months, with one-third
of all the demand in Asia for our agricultural products gone.
That is, 10 percent of the entire demand for all agricultural
products in America evaporated in a very short period of time.
Some in the financial markets, at the beginning of the
year, glibly said, "We are not a country to depend much
on exports, we can remain prosperous on our own island here,
and we may be nicked a little bit, maybe a quarter to one-half
of one percent of our GNP." But there are very few
singing that song any longer, in large part because the
casualties keep mounting — and one of the major ones is
Russia, and that has special problems for us.
In the same way that I described the good news, mainly work
with the Russians, systematically, day by day, year after year
— destroying missiles, destroying warheads, securing nuclear
material — the problem now, and those of you in the Air
Force Association who have had contacts with Russians
appreciate it, is the acute predicament of their military
establishment. As you lead with Igor Sergeyev, who at least
for the time is their chief of staff, or with others of the
chiefs there in Russia, they are plagued by an enormous social
problem of how to get pension money for officers who want to
leave the service and apartments for those officers and their
families who’ve been promised. There is not money to fulfill
those obligations. They are downsizing their armed forces and
yet they cannot downsize nearly fast enough because they do
not have the money to pay those who are in the armed forces
now, regularly and on time, and do not have the money to
pension out those who might leave. It is a very desperate
predicament.
It is a predicament in which there are budgets for
modernization and, from time to time, there are press reports
of intelligence that modernization is occurring in submarines
or, on some occasions, in aircraft. Undoubtedly, on the
fringes, some of this goes on, but basically it is a country
that cannot collect taxes to meet its budget by a long shot.
The budgets are down in size and, as a result, by large
percentage gaps, funds are withheld. That is true for the
military. It is true for the people who sweep the subways of
Moscow and for those who are involved with treating people in
hospital beds. It is an economy that, outside of Moscow and
St. Petersburg, deals largely with the barter of goods and
services — a non-cash economy. For many Russians, that is
the good news, since the ruble is worth much less since the
devaluations, since they were not involved in rubles to begin
with, but with real goods, they continue on in some type of
informal way. But militaries do not run on barter and on all
these informal ways. As a result, even though the Duma, the
Russian legislature, refused to ratify the START II Treaty, we
might proceed in a regular systematic way to destroy more
missiles and warheads. And both sides, the United States and
Russia, would come down to roughly 3,500 warheads.
In fact, Russian officers who visit with me with some
regularity propose that we seriously consider reduction to a
thousand warheads each or maybe even fewer. They point out
that, at various times, Boris Yeltsin, president of Russia,
has mentioned these lower figures. Some felt at the time he
did so he was unauthorized to do so and later repudiated these
low figures. If the United States Air Force currently were to
seriously contemplate 1,000 warheads for the United States,
this would cause a great deal of consternation in our own
military establishment. We are geared up for something very
different from that.
Why would the Russians seriously propose that the highest
levels of missiles be 1,000 or fewer? Simply because it is a
very expensive business. Again and again, they come back to
the fact that maintenance of these instruments of mass
destruction, simply securing them to make sure there are not
interlopers and intruders and accidents, is an increasingly
volatile business. It is in the interests of our safety, they
would claim, as well as in theirs, to work on programs that
get us down dramatically. It is a very ironic situation.
I accompanied former Secretary of Defense Bill Perry to
visit with the Duma. We both spoke with the members about the
ratification of START II. Obviously, we were not particularly
persuasive. They proceeded right on in their ways. The
duration of vitality of those missiles without proper
maintenance and, in some cases, even with proper maintenance,
over the course of time is not simply a question of wanting to
negotiate down from 3,500 to 1,000. It is a question of what
the missiles will look like, what kind of reliability they
will have after 10 years of time.
The great dilemma really comes down to this. I’ll move to
3,500, 2,000 or 1,000 and so forth. The problem is, in a
desperate condition, 50 missiles hitting cities in the United
States would be absolutely devastating to our lives and our
country. When I went to a field in the Ukraine, they pulled
the capsule up, which is the command station for that
particular field where there had been 69 missiles with at
least four warheads apiece poised to fire at the United States
for the better part of 40 years. It was rather ominous to see
these two Ukranian or Soviet soldiers, as the case may be, who
stood watch. They had pictures of the targets in the United
States. These still are the targets. It is a very, very tense
and difficult situation.
I am not one who is trying to second-guess how to run
Russia and how to bring some vitality to the situation. But I
do say we have a great deal at stake in working with Russians
to make certain that they maintain a democracy of sorts, with
building the institutions as time may go on, some type of
market economy that interfaces with ours, so that normal
commerce and travel of Americans can take place. And it is
very important that we stay close to their military people. I
would claim that we have been successful thus far in doing so,
despite the ups and downs of the politics and economics. There
is, at least in the core being of most of the Russian military
people that I have seen, the same fear of destruction of our
countries that always has to be very present for anybody who
thinks about the future of the United States. I am optimistic
about this situation. I plan to go to Russia again in
November, as I have at the end of Congress for several years.
I may or may not see Mr. Primakov, the new prime minister. He
at least is somebody we are prepared to visit, even though he
doesn’t wish us well. His general policy, starting back with
attempting to get Saddam Hussein off the hook before Desert
Storm, is well known. I visited him when he was chief of the
intelligence services of Russia, and that is in his
background. But he is the new prime minister, and he is a
force to be reckoned with even as he faces the chaos that is
there.
Let me just dwell on one further thought, and that is that
our military force in this country stands on a very strong
foundation of public support. That means congressional
support, and that means appropriations. Much has been made of
that today, and that is a very important item on your agenda
and mine. But our prosperity in this country is very important
in supporting that. That is true of our new NATO allies. For
example, as I visited with the government officials in
Hungary, they stressed the independence they have from the
Russian economy, but they acknowledge that they are close to
the same. And so it is with Poland, and so it is with the
Czech Republic — not dependent, most of the exports and
imports no longer in those directions. But, at the same time,
with danger and difficulty in the neighborhood, there is some
fall-out to anticipate. That is even more the case as I visit
with President [Eduard] Shevardnadze in Georgia, President [Heydar]
Aliyev in Azerbaijan. Here are two officials who used to be a
part of the Politburo, who, according to the rankings of the
time, anywhere from three, four, five and six in the top 10,
along with President Nazarbayev, now in Kazakhstan. They are
well aware of how the game was played in those days. In fact,
they can identify the persons who have tried to assassinate
them during their presidencies of these independent countries,
and how they are at large in Moscow. They do not anticipate an
easy time as that pipeline from Bakur through to Turkey is
formulated and hopefully will be built to offer an independent
source and route of oil in the Caspian Sea. There are others
in the neighborhood who anticipate difficulty unless our
diplomacy and the extension of our current military power is
more evident.
I make this point because of a similar speech I made before
the American Legion annual convention about eight years ago.
General Colin Powell was the other speaker. His speech that
day was not an easy one for him to give. It talked about the
downsizing of our armed forces by about 25 percent. This was
in the summer of 1990. My speech was about going after Saddam
Hussein. We were just at the beginning of that situation. I
said Saddam must go and that it must be a very urgent part of
armed forces policy. Well, Saddam did not go, but 500,000
Americans did go to Saudi Arabia and the environs — an
extraordinary extension of American military authority.
American Air Force personnel are still in the deserts of Saudi
Arabia, always in dangerous straits and, following the Khobar
Towers bombing incident, at least with greater security, but a
great sense of urgency. This still remains for the United
States a situation which we have not resolved as a people.
How important are weapons of mass destruction? Is it worth
military conflict with Iraq to eradicate, root and branch, all
vestiges of biological and chemical warfare or any nuclear
elements that are left over? Or, are we left in limbo in this
world in which we hope that the economic squeeze on Saddam
Hussein in Iraq will be enough to contain those developments.
Ditto for North Korea. Do we know for sure that the program is
over? The reports now are that the latest firing of a
satellite was a dud, but, nevertheless, the Japanese were
certainly shocked to find missiles landing in the ocean on
both sides of their country and wondering what kind of a
protective shield we are prepared to bring to them as a quid
pro quo for their non-development of nuclear authority.
We know that in India and Pakistan there have been tests,
but we do not know the degree to which weaponization of
nuclear authority may be taking place, and we do not have very
good diplomatic policies to deal with it, having adopted the
Glenn Amendment awhile back. It was simply to stop our
economic traffic with Pakistan and India. In essence, all
around the world, in this particular fall of 1998, there are
critical dilemmas that may require the use of military force.
There is no doubt that, if that is the case, the United States
Air Force will be front and center. It may be through remote
missiles that some attacks will occur, as was the case
recently in combating terrorism. But that was clearly just a
first chapter of that business.
We are under threat in all of our embassies and who knows
in what other facilities abroad as those who perpetrated the
deeds in those two American embassies are still at large and
still threatening. They are saying, in essence, that, although
you Americans have a huge military establishment,
unquestionably, and are very strong in conventional and
nuclear terms — not only number one, but there is no one
even in sight — we can still make the world a very dangerous
and unfriendly place for the United States.
We have going for us huge inequities in terms of wealth and
poverty. We have all sorts of misunderstandings with regard to
religious and ethnic rivalry and conflict. The tinderbox is
always there and the means to excite people and create harm
likewise. This is going to call for this country to develop
much more sophisticated policies, and for the American people
to take a much more sophisticated interest when their
president, their Congress, their military authorities call
upon them for the sacrifices that may, and I suspect will, be
required.
Each of you senses this. Speeches that I give to my
constituents again and again say please stay alive with regard
to foreign policy and defense policy. I appreciate all the
polls that indicate that those of us in Congress ought to be
thinking about jobs, the economy, housing, education and the
environment. These are crucial and important issues to
everybody. I mean, they will always be upper-most in terms of
our quality of life and ways that we can serve our citizens.
But some of us, at least a few of us, really have to keep
interested in the rest of the world every day — in the
dangers and the possibilities, with constructive programs and,
at the same time, the military force and the sophisticated way
to make it stick, to be taken seriously, to know that the
United States is important in what we say, and that we have
the commitment to follow through.
I salute the United States Air Force. I salute each of you
in the Air Force Association who give such long time, lifetime
support to those on active duty and in the reserves because
you are crucial, really not only to the defense of this
country, but even more importantly to the realization of the
dreams of this country. I thank you very much.